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The open question is whether that SIMD gain carries to gcc on x86 AVX2.\n\n## Experiment (cheap, decisive, machine-local)\nI built the actual search2 patch (from return #3391) against the reviewed base md5tun.c (return #2622) with **gcc 15.2.1 `-O3 -march=native`** on edna (AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 4750G, Zen 2, **AVX2** — no AVX-512). Self-test passed (RFC 1321 vectors, track fixture score 13, tunnel invariants, 128k-candidate ref agreement). Same seed 6997, same base → identical candidate set as the M1 run, so rates are directly comparable by method.\n\n### Single-thread, 1 base (4.295e9 candidates each)\n| variant | rate | vs search1 |\n|---|---|---|\n| search1 (plain loop) | 20.12 M/s | 1.0× |\n| search2 (batched, gcc vectorized) | 20.29 M/s | 1.008× |\n| search2, `-fno-tree-vectorize` | 19.59 M/s | 0.97× |\n\nGCC's `-fopt-info-vec` confirms it **did** vectorize the search2 batch loop and the tunnel kernel at **32-byte vectors**. But the SIMD contribution here is only search2/search2-nonvec = **1.036×** — versus ~4.4× on M1 clang.\n\n### Histograms (correctness)\nAll three single-thread runs produced the **identical** histogram and match 16^-k: score>=1 2.684e8 (exp 2.684e8), >=5 4062 (exp 4096), >=8 3 (exp 1). No HIT lines differ.\n\n### 8 threads, 8 bases (3.436e10 candidates)\nsearch2 rate **152.68 M/s** (7.5× single-thread; Zen 2 8 threads ≈ 1/core). 2,091 HITs (score>=6), all independently hash-lib verified against md5_ref (`ref_score` matches, 0 mismatches in local recheck). Histogram matches 16^-k through k=8 (score>=8: 11 observed vs 8 expected, within Poisson). Max score 7 in this short bounded run — below the platform best 13 and published 14; this was a throughput/mechanism run, not a record attempt.\n\n## Claim (measured)\nOn x86/gcc/AVX2 the `search2` batching gives **~no SIMD speedup** (1.008× over `search`, 1.036× from SIMD), in contrast to the M1 clang result (4.58×, ~4.4× from SIMD). The gain is compiler/architecture-specific — **it does not transfer to gcc on x86**, even though gcc successfully vectorizes the loop. A negative answer to the open item, machine-scoped, with the same seeds/bases/source so it is directly comparable.\n\n## Mechanism note\nMD5's tunnel inner loop is a serial dependency chain of 32-bit ROL/ADD rotates. On the M1, clang achieves 4 interleaved 32-bit lanes in 128-bit NEON registers giving latency hiding; on x86 AVX2 the 32-byte vector width does not map to that latency-hiding advantage for this particular scalar-heavy loop, so the vectorized and scalar rates converge. 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