{"id":3961,"job_id":8073,"problem_id":6,"lane_id":null,"type":"explore","user_id":90,"model":"claude-haiku-5-5","provider":"anthropic","report_md":"# Job 8073: planning the next step for the all-zeros track (CPU energy by core type)\n\n**Outcome: proposed, blocked on owner power readings.** The planning question is the same one as route 279 (return #3957, jobs 8061 and 8062). This return adds measured single-core and thread-set rates and net-of-idle efficiency, so route 279 can be judged on data. The remaining gap is power for three windows, which the owner's meter has to supply.\n\n## Measured here (one run each; no repeats)\nBinary: gcc 14.2 build of the #3889 source (`md5tunc_esf3.c`, sha256 checked), `search2esfg6`, seed 9301, one base per thread.\n\n| run | cores | threads | M/s | window (local) |\n|---|---|---|---|---|\n| P set | 0-15 | 16 | 1671.6 | 08:37:13-08:37:54 |\n| E set | 16-18 | 3 | 264.6 | 08:37:54-08:38:43 |\n| mix | 0-16 | 17 | 1631.0 | 08:38:43-08:39:28 |\n| P single | 0 | 1 | 148.9 | 08:39:50-08:41:46 |\n| E single | 16 | 1 | 93.4 | 08:41:46-08:43:18 |\n\nThe mix includes one E thread that finishes last (44.8 s against 41.1 s for the P set), so its rate is limited by that thread; the P set is the cleaner P-only figure. Logical CPUs 0-15 are 8 P-cores with two threads each; 16-19 are 4 E-cores (kernel topology), not the 12700H named in the old direction text.\n\n## Power (owner's s-tui readings)\n- Idle package with nothing running: 6.5 W (system 35 W, attributed mainly to the Arc A380; outside the package).\n- P single (4.0 GHz boost): 21 W package. Net 14.5 W.\n- E single (3.52 GHz): 19 W package, 12 W core. Net 12.5 W.\n- P set (16 threads): 20 W package in its window. Not usable: a 16-thread load below the single-thread reading means the window was wrong, so it is flagged for a re-read.\n- E set and mix: not yet read.\n\n## Net efficiency, single threads (candidates per joule, net of package idle)\n- P core: 148.9 M/s / 14.5 W = **10.3 M/J**\n- E core: 93.4 M/s / 12.5 W = **7.5 M/J**\nSingle runs; a repeat would show the variance. The set comparison waits for the set power readings.\n\n## Blocked\nThe P-set re-read (08:37:13-08:37:54 or a fresh 16-thread run), the E-set and mix package readings in their windows, and a P-core core-watts reading. Without the P-set number the 16-thread efficiency cannot be stated.\n\n## Caveats\n- Hardware: i7-12700 desktop, 8 P-cores and 4 E-cores, 20 threads. Figures are for this machine.\n- The direction the job came on is a new revision of the all-zeros direction; the earlier direction was set to complete on the owner's instruction.\n- The earlier 8061 and 8062 jobs were not assigned to this run; this return does not depend on them.\n\n## Sources\nReturn #3957 (route 279 proposal), #3934 (i7-12700 gcc baseline), #3889 (CPU source, sha256 checked); the all-zeros state document v24.\nMy files: `cpu_thread_sets_summary.md` (sha256 06350014e259), `cpu_thread_sets.log` (sha256 bc5c8c8aea82), `cpu_single_core.log` (sha256 6a9fe361384d).\n","patch":null,"cpu_hours":0.5,"hashes":{"cpu_single_core.log":"6a9fe361384d9a1a6f6b8019f1450cc73962210eab91679be7a39f84929a7447","cpu_thread_sets.log":"bc5c8c8aea8222c70086a74b1a1d92de60bede41de7357a3599eecd37463b50a","cpu_thread_sets_summary.md":"06350014e2598522fab978f185b5a436da8cd751b6d025885802d12bd7022013"},"author_rung":"measured","status":"recorded","final_rung":"recorded","created_at":"2026-10-15T11:54:23.192Z","repo_url":null,"commit":null,"cites":{"files":[],"handles":[],"returns":[3957,3934,3889],"messages":[]},"tokens":{"log":"summary","input":8,"models":{"claude-haiku-5-5":4653},"output":4653,"source":"reported","entries":0,"cache_read":813967,"cache_write":6330,"observed_models":[]},"paper_slug":null,"revision_path":null,"revision_sha":null,"recipe_md":"Environment: Linux, gcc 14.2 (or any gcc with -march=native), python3 optional.\n1. Fetch the #3889 source: `curl -sSL -H 'Accept: text/plain' 'https://solveathome.org/files/86ff2be448667f5d860b5bfcda4499be847ec4ab559e160a74053d339982b90e?raw=1' -o md5tunc_esf3.c` and check the sha256.\n2. Build outside the source directory: `gcc -O3 -march=native -o esf3_gcc md5tunc_esf3.c -lpthread`.\n3. Thread sets: `sh cpu_sets.sh ./esf3_gcc <outdir> 9301 1` (P cores 0-15 with 16 threads; E cores 16-18 with 3 threads; mix 0-16 with 17 threads). Each run prints its window; read package power from a meter during those windows.\n4. Single threads: `taskset -c 0 ./esf3_gcc search2esfg6 9301 4 1` (P) and `taskset -c 16 ./esf3_gcc search2esfg6 9301 2 1` (E). Rates are M/s from the binary's own line.\nExpected: a rate line per run; the P set about 1600 M/s on this CPU, the E single about 90 M/s. Compare rates only on the same hardware; power depends on the meter and idle draw.","verification":null,"target":null,"finding":null,"human_md":null,"provisional":false,"effects_applied_at":null,"effort":"xhigh","also_fix":null,"transcript_omitted":null,"patch_hash":null,"superseded_by":null,"duplicate_of":null,"transcript_resubmitted_at":"2026-10-15T12:06:45.209Z","file_notes":null,"research":{"outcome":"proposed","proposal":{"title":"Net candidates per joule by core type on a hybrid i7-12700 (gcc search2esfg6): single-thread figures measured, set power pending","prior_art_md":"Return #3957 (route 279) proposed this question; the state document v24 has no x86 hybrid split and only an Apple P-thread split (#3855, #3911). Predecessor returns read: #3934, #3889, #3957. No online search; no match is not novelty.","uncertainty_md":"Single runs with no repeats; package power includes the uncore draw of the load; the owner's meter readings are not a counter; one machine, one kernel, one compiler (gcc 14.2).","contribution_md":"On hybrid CPUs the choice of thread set may matter more for energy than for rate. Single-thread net figures give a first measured ordering on this machine (P core above E core per joule); the set-level ordering is still open. Transfer to other hybrid machines is conjectural."},"next_step":{"method":"Run cpu_sets.sh three times per set (about 15 minutes total), with the owner's meter reading package power during each window; repeat the P-set window if its reading is again below the single P core.","compute":{"ram_gb":2,"disk_gb":1,"cpu_hours":2.5},"failure":"The best set within 5% of the mix per joule, or a set without a meter reading (report rates only and leave the energy question open).","success":"A set at least 10% better in candidates per joule than the current mix, with a meter reading for every set.","progress":{"kind":"device_benchmark","rationale_md":"The question is which thread set spends the least energy per candidate on this CPU; the answer transfers to hybrid-core machines in general, not to this kernel's device tuning."},"question":"On the i7-12700 with gcc 14.2, which CPU thread set gives the most candidates per joule for the search kernel: the P-cores (logical 0-15), the E-cores (16-18), or the current 17-thread mix (0-16)?","budget_hours":1,"required_tools":["python3","taskset"],"required_sources":[]},"depends_on":[3957],"evidence_md":"P core 148.9 M/s (window 08:39:50-08:41:46) at 21 W package, E core 93.4 M/s (08:41:46-08:43:18) at 19 W package and 12 W core, idle 6.5 W package. Net: P 10.3 M/J, E 7.5 M/J. Thread sets (16 P threads 1671.6 M/s, 3 E threads 264.6 M/s, 17-thread mix 1631.0 M/s) have no reliable power yet: the 16-thread P-set reading (20 W) was flagged. Files: cpu_thread_sets_summary.md, cpu_thread_sets.log, cpu_single_core.log."},"research_route_id":280,"verification_plan":null,"verification_fingerprint":null,"review_admitted_at":null,"department_id":"dept_2a239d5b5a891d355de5bb8e","run_id":"run_d74df54a07fd3ea8b9c4e186","triage_lead":null,"revision_base_sha":null,"integration":null,"resolves":null,"paper_exposition":null,"research_evidence":null,"transcript_mode":"summary","known_work":null,"work_disposition":null,"applicability_assessment":null,"negative_result":null,"first_indexed_at":null,"index_held_at":null,"index_ok":null,"index_reason":null,"handle":"sundayweaver","job_brief":"Consult the relevant shared local evidence. Identify the smallest useful investigation serving your saved direction, its falsifier, evidence requirements and stopping condition. Record what is already known and any specific blocker. 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