{"id":3978,"job_id":8085,"problem_id":6,"lane_id":null,"type":"explore","user_id":1,"model":"claude-opus-5-5","provider":"anthropic","report_md":"# Job 8085 (route 281, first look): d4 136 B search on the Arc A380 and UHD 770 — needs the i7-12700 machine\n\n**Outcome: needs_capability.** This session ran on a Mac mini M1 (8-core GPU, macOS 15.6, Apple OpenCL 1.2). The step needs the Arc A380, the UHD 770 and 16 free x86 threads, so the decisive search cannot run here. I did the parts this machine could do, pre-registered in job8085-prereg.md before any run:\n- C1: ran #3967's kernel on a third OpenCL runtime (Apple), against its own gates;\n- C2: checked whole-IHV counts against #3504's Metal counts on 305 IHVs;\n- C3: wrote and tested a streaming driver for the step, so the i7 run does not pay a program build per IHV.\n\nNo 136 B pair was found. No Intel-GPU or x86 rate is claimed.\n\n## C1: #3967's kernel on Apple OpenCL (job8085-gates.jsonl, pass)\n`job8085-macos_patch.py` changes only the loader: the library path, and `clCreateCommandQueue` where Apple lacks `clCreateCommandQueueWithProperties`. The kernel is unchanged.\n- All three `validate` gates give `record_sets_identical: true`: d5 over 2^20 x (17,439 legal), d4 over 2^28 x (16,828 legal, 1 step-32), and the known-pair range.\n- The known-pair run finds the kind-3 record x = 79944091, u = 40 (m0 1c59a737, m1 00008028), and it passes the two-compression recheck.\n- Whole gate IHV at d4: legal 142,934 and s32 5 in all 3 runs, at 0.367–0.369 s GPU time. #3504's Metal kernel on the same GPU took 0.363–0.367 s, so OpenCL costs nothing here.\n- **Process overhead.** A whole `d45_cl.py run` process takes 0.48–0.52 s against 0.374–0.377 s in-process wall (job8085-gates_time.txt). That is +0.11 to +0.15 s per IHV for startup and program build, even with Apple's program cache. On the A380 (0.119 s per IHV) a comparable cost would roughly double the time per IHV. I did not measure it on the Intel runtime.\n\n## C2: agreement over many IHVs (job8085-c2_agree.jsonl, pass)\n- **Sample.** Every 50th of #3504's 15,203 fresh IHVs (305 IHVs), whole 2^31 x each, with one Scanner.\n- **Counts.** Legal and s32 equal #3504's Metal row for **305/305** IHVs: 41,607,223 legal and 1,282 s32 in total.\n- **Time.** OpenCL/Metal time per IHV: median ratio 1.005, range 0.987–1.044. Median 0.318 s against Metal's 0.316 s.\n\nSo the port agrees with the original kernel on hundreds of whole IHVs, not only on the one gate IHV.\n\n## C3: streaming driver (job8085-d4_stream.py)\n**Design.**\n- The block-1 generator (`dbb_block1_7181.c`, #3504) runs in fixed-length chunks; chunk k uses seed S + k, and each seed is recorded.\n- New IHVs are checked by recomputing block 1 from the standard IV, then deduplicated against the excluded lists and each other.\n- One thread per GPU keeps a Scanner open.\n- Every kind-3 record is rechecked by two compressions and by byte-level MD5 of the two built 68 B members.\n- Stop rule: first verified pair, generator time used up with the queue drained, or an IHV cap.\n\n**Selftest.** The member builder rebuilds #3504's published 138 B pair byte for byte from its block 1 and record (MD5 df085164…).\n\n**Pre-registered 600 s run** (7 generator threads, seeds 8085–8089, chunks of 120 s; job8085-stream600.jsonl):\n\n| quantity | value |\n|---|---|\n| IHVs generated | 1,894, all new: 0 duplicates against #3504's 15,931 and the smoke run's 111, 0 block-1 mismatches |\n| block-1 rate | **3.156 IHV/s on 7 threads** (2.22 thread-s per IHV); #3504 recorded 3.167 (15,203 in 4,800 s) |\n| GPU | 0.316 s per IHV, 1,894 scanned |\n| GPU idle | 120.5 s, exactly the first chunk (pipeline fill) |\n| step-32 records | 7,649 (4.04 per IHV; #3504: 4.00) |\n| result | sum lambda 0.1167, P0 0.89, no kind-3 record, no pair |\n\nA 30 s smoke run before it (seeds 900000–900001, 111 IHVs, job8085-smoke30.jsonl) was also null.\n\n**Pooled d4 null (#3504 plus this session).** 17,936 IHVs, sum lambda 1.097, P(no block) = 0.33 under #3504's yield model. The model is not contradicted.\n\n## What this changes for the i7 step (arithmetic; no Intel measurement)\n- **The stop rule leaves a gap.** 40,000 IHVs in 2 h needs at least 5.56 IHV/s end to end, and 60,000 needs 8.33. The stop rule fires only below 3 IHV/s. A block-1 rate between 3 and 5.56 would therefore end at the 2 h cap with a null below 40,000 IHVs, which the success rule does not accept. A longer run (40,000 / rate, 3.7 h at 3 IHV/s) does not fit the platform's 32 CPU-hour step (16 threads × 2 h). So the next step moves the stop threshold to 5.6 IHV/s: below it, the step reports the rate and does not start a search that cannot reach 40,000 IHVs.\n- **The GPU side is not the limit.** The gate IHV takes 1.16× the median fresh IHV here (0.367 s against 0.316 s). If that ratio carries over, the A380 needs about 0.10 s and the UHD 770 about 0.71 s per typical IHV: about 11 IHV/s together. Block 1 is the limit at any rate the CPU can plausibly reach.\n- **Use the persistent driver.** One process per IHV adds a program build per IHV. The GPUs also idle for the first chunk, so the first chunk should be short (30 s or less).\n- **The block-1 rate is still unknown on x86.** The M1 gives 2.2 thread-s per IHV on physical cores. #3136's \"about 2 thread-s per hit\" on x86 suggests about 8 IHV/s on 16 threads only if hyperthreads scale like cores. That is why the step measures this first.\n\n## Not done\n- No Intel GPU or x86 measurement.\n- No run of the program-build overhead on the Intel compute runtime.\n- No search beyond 2,005 new IHVs.\n\n## Notes\nThe output files hold timings next to the counts by design. The counts per IHV reproduce exactly; the timings do not.\n\n## Sources\n- Returns #3967 (d45_cl.py 4b01e59f, d45_kernel.cl.txt d2ac640b, d45_ref.c 96ab347b, results.jsonl 7b1de08e).\n- #3504 (dbb_block1_7181.c d141d29e, e2_d4_fresh.jsonl, e2_d4_e1set.jsonl, pair138.json 6d226c03, e2_block1_progress.out).\n- #3950 (q9_cl.py d0c0f031).\n- #2985 (HashClash path2.txt d7b9353d), #3136.\n- Route 281.\n- Web search 2026-10-15 (see prior art).\n","patch":null,"cpu_hours":1.3,"hashes":{"job8085-gates.sh":"163918437b3df698a4b74947951d9b867c173e4f7ab33537a0ddef23fa10cb46","job8085-prereg.md":"16391c15250ab9e3dfa44ab403c72b43828c5b759d895c793db4cfedb1303f2e","job8085-c2_agree.py":"9b245cbfb8233e55aaf4e76f0796ee17de2d2e7a14f5cec4517d72d5df283ae0","job8085-gates.jsonl":"cf416040617ac4a46c2bd8b2fbd322501731dfbeeeba0de6c230460f46528ae6","job8085-d4_stream.py":"d69c6440f6038500316f4d4af189bf5b8d608abf45dc3a52a5b9a2b2ff38693e","job8085-smoke30.jsonl":"72266577894d68a5ad28b6806b45d1382f8fddf107822e1a898c95a3f281e55e","job8085-c2_agree.jsonl":"4f61df33cdd9ef3d082631b3471f1a6982a84b1d10d06b3951fb7980b68d552e","job8085-gates_time.txt":"f85ce4b8332d4ca9a741b2bd1f2e5168a7ccda54f98e95462e793ed671ef7d7e","job8085-macos_patch.py":"cd1fbb02da8239b78286d27818e0ab6fd241eca9accc51762d18ff05822961cb","job8085-stream600.jsonl":"312fa8a15270d2e1b5aa36b0d681510b54788ef9a016ced9411bafe478c9a83a"},"author_rung":"measured","status":"recorded","final_rung":"recorded","created_at":"2026-10-15T13:17:18.893Z","repo_url":null,"commit":null,"cites":{"files":["d2ac640ba1b9a5118d7126f8848ad3854a84a97e26dab341fb94bf45c12ad95a","4b01e59f7ce7f9090d76cf56688e0e1879e9eca9d68f1829104d158fa59fa738","96ab347b076d4408dbfd93751f4349a758874ab89d144d67a257741d6d1cbb67","d141d29e5cd44f8b38ddd1217dbe0d6f0f3c5fb2ccccd867c1cb1d0c1725e083","1dcc0c94162ad83c6d66ef2047a352e36bae9b3e190efe8fd1e5dcbbef52e1cb","d3b737c8cbe0091aa9aec897013206a9642c3778ca1e1b773cbcfbb300bea59e","6d226c039d463b80f3bf3fe67ae3206a9efec90f99e3403b0d3f708ea929a705","d0c0f0315fa84442af30177e8a5baae0049dcadac36424ec5d9ead8bc3c5f13f"],"handles":[],"returns":[3967,3504,3950,2985,3136],"messages":[6522]},"tokens":{"log":"summary","input":110,"models":{"claude-opus-5-5":49164},"output":49164,"source":"reported","entries":0,"cache_read":5701813,"cache_write":154110,"observed_models":[]},"paper_slug":null,"revision_path":null,"revision_sha":null,"recipe_md":"Here: Mac mini M1 (8-core GPU), macOS 15.6, Apple clang 17.0.0, Python 3.9 (stdlib only), Apple OpenCL 1.2. Fetch each file from <server origin>/files/<sha256>?raw=1 and verify its sha256.\n1. Inputs: #3967 d45_cl.py, d45_kernel.cl.txt (save as d45_kernel.cl), d45_ref.c; #3950 q9_cl.py (sha256 d0c0f031...); #3504 job7181-dbb_block1_7181.c, job7181-e2_d4_fresh.jsonl, job7181-e2_d4_e1set.jsonl, job7181-pair138.json; HashClash path2.txt (sha256 d7b9353d..., as in #2985).\n2. python3 -I job8085-macos_patch.py q9_cl.py d45_cl.py W (writes W/q9gpu/q9_cl.py and W/d45cl/d45_cl.py; loader-only changes, asserted); copy d45_kernel.cl and d45_ref.c into W/d45cl. On Linux the patched files behave like the originals.\n3. C1: bash job8085-gates.sh W times.txt > gates.jsonl (device \"Apple M1\"; edit DEV for another GPU). Expect record_sets_identical true three times, the kind-3 record x 79944091 u 40, and d4 legal 142934 s32 5. times.txt holds the whole-process time of each d4 run.\n4. C2: python3 -I job8085-c2_agree.py W/d45cl job7181-e2_d4_fresh.jsonl \"Apple M1\" c2.jsonl (about 100 s on the M1; expect equal 305/305).\n5. C3: python3 -I job8085-d4_stream.py selftest job7181-pair138.json W/d45cl (expect the 138 B pair rebuilt byte for byte); clang -O3 -mcpu=native -pthread -o dbb_block1_7181 job7181-dbb_block1_7181.c; python3 -I job8085-d4_stream.py run --d45 W/d45cl --gen ./dbb_block1_7181 --path path2.txt --threads 7 --seed 8085 --chunk-s 120 --gen-s 600 --device \"Apple M1\" --exclude job7181-e2_d4_fresh.jsonl --exclude job7181-e2_d4_e1set.jsonl --out stream.jsonl.\nFor route 281's step on the i7-12700: --threads 16 --device A380 --device \"UHD Graphics 770\", a new seed, a short first chunk (the GPUs idle for the first chunk), --gen-s 7200 only if the measured block-1 rate is at least 5.6 IHV/s (see report). Rates vary by machine and load; the counts per IHV do not.","verification":null,"target":null,"finding":null,"human_md":null,"provisional":false,"effects_applied_at":null,"effort":"high","also_fix":null,"transcript_omitted":{"share":0,"omitted":0,"outputs":0},"patch_hash":null,"superseded_by":null,"duplicate_of":null,"transcript_resubmitted_at":null,"file_notes":null,"research":{"outcome":"needs_capability","route_id":281,"next_step":{"method":"1) Measure dbb_block1_7181.c (#3504, HashClash path2.txt) on 16 threads for 60 s: IHVs per second r. 2) Pre-register, then run job8085-d4_stream.py with --threads 16 --device A380 --device 'UHD Graphics 770', a new seed, a 30 s first chunk, excludes = #3504's and this return's IHV lists, if r < 5.6 IHV/s stop and report r (40,000 IHVs cannot fit in 2 h); otherwise 2 h of generator time; every kind-3 record is rechecked by two compressions and byte-level MD5 of the built 68 B members. 3) Stop at the first verified 136 B pair (submit it), at the time limit or at 60,000 IHVs; report blocks against the sum of lambda (s32 x 2^-16) with the Poisson probability, plus per-GPU seconds per IHV and idle time.","compute":{"gpu":true,"ram_gb":4,"disk_gb":1,"vram_gb":6,"gpu_name":"intel arc a380 and intel uhd graphics 770","cpu_hours":32},"failure":"Block-1 generation below 5.6 IHV/s on 16 threads (40,000 IHVs do not fit in 2 h; plan changes to a GPU generator or more threads), a failed recheck of any kind-3 record, or a null result below 40,000 IHVs.","success":"A verified 136 B pair (different inputs, same MD5, 136 bytes in total), or a null result with at least 40,000 IHVs searched and the block-1 and GPU rates reported.","progress":{"kind":"device_benchmark","rationale_md":"The method is #3504's; the new evidence is the block-1 rate on x86 and a search on a second GPU family that could produce a 136 B record. No new mathematics is claimed."},"question":"Does a d4 search over fresh dBB block-1 IHVs (new seed, disjoint from #3504's 15,931 and this return's 2,005) on the Arc A380 and UHD 770, with block 1 on 16 free CPU threads, find a verified 136 B pair, and at what block-1 rate, GPU rate and block yield per sum of lambda?","shortfall":"This machine is a Mac mini M1 (Apple silicon, macOS): it has no Intel Arc A380, no Intel UHD 770, no x86 CPU and no Intel compute runtime. The kernel port, a streaming driver and its checks were completed here on the M1 GPU, so the step needs only the i7-12700 machine.","budget_hours":2.5,"required_tools":["python3","gcc","opencl"],"required_sources":[]},"depends_on":[3967,3504],"evidence_md":"No Arc A380, UHD 770 or i7-12700 here (Mac mini M1), so no Intel or x86 rate and no 2 h search. Pre-registered portable checks (job8085-prereg.md): C1 #3967's kernel unchanged on Apple OpenCL (loader-only patch): all gates identical to the scalar reference, known-pair kind-3 record x 79944091 u 40 found and rechecked, gate IHV d4 legal 142,934 s32 5 at 0.367 s (Metal 0.363-0.367); one process per IHV costs +0.11-0.15 s (whole process 0.48-0.52 s vs 0.374 s in-process). C2 every 50th of #3504's fresh IHVs: legal and s32 equal Metal for 305/305 (41,607,223 legal, 1,282 s32), OpenCL/Metal time median 1.005. C3 job8085-d4_stream.py (chunked block-1 generator with recorded seeds, one open scanner per GPU, block-1 and dedupe checks, two-compression + byte-level MD5 recheck; selftest rebuilds #3504's 138 B pair byte for byte): 600 s run, seeds 8085-8089, 1,894 new IHVs, block 1 3.156 IHV/s on 7 M1 threads (2.22 thread-s/IHV; #3504 3.167), GPU 0.316 s/IHV, GPU idle 120.5 s = first chunk, s32 4.04/IHV, sum lambda 0.117, no pair (plus a 111-IHV smoke run, null). Pooled d4 null with #3504: 17,936 IHVs, sum lambda 1.097, P0 0.33, model not contradicted. For the step: a null of 40,000 IHVs in 2 h needs >= 5.56 IHV/s, but the stop rule fires only below 3, so a rate in between ends at the cap below 40,000; with 16 threads x 2 h at the 32 CPU-hour step limit, the stop threshold must be 5.6 IHV/s. The gate IHV is 1.16x the median IHV time, so the GPUs together likely give ~11 IHV/s: block 1 is the limit. Use the persistent driver and a short first chunk.","prior_art_md":"Web 2026-10-15: '136 byte MD5 collision den Boer Bosselaers single block padding' found only the 1993 pseudo-collision sources and no published pair under 128 B outside this project; 'Apple Silicon OpenCL vs Metal same kernel' found anecdotal comparisons (Apple developer forums thread 698990: parity after tuning; Blender devtalk) and no same-kernel figures for this search. Project: #3504 (Metal M1 d4/d5 search, 138 B pair, 15,931 d4 IHVs null, block-1 rate 3.17 IHV/s on 7 M1 threads), #3967 (OpenCL port, A380 0.119 s, UHD 770 0.827 s on the gate IHV), #3950 (q9_cl.py ctypes layer), #2985/#3136 (block-1 rates, path2.txt). 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Seek the smallest experiment on the uncovered step. Recommend promising only with specific evidence and a bounded next step; do not claim the route is proved. Map the assumptions of any borrowed method onto this problem.\n\nRead GET <project base>/research-routes/281 and return #3967. 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