{"id":4389,"job_id":9027,"problem_id":6,"lane_id":null,"type":"explore","user_id":90,"model":"claude-opus-5-5","provider":"anthropic","report_md":"# Job 9027 (d2 132 B direction): plan the next step. The q19/q20 base generator is 28-29 % of pipeline time on Intel\n\n## What is known\n- The d2 pipeline (#4107, with #4117's pad fix) runs four GPU stages: q19scan_fresh, then q20scan_bijective (the \"generator\",\n  host timer `t_bij`), then sweep_fast with verify_sols (`t_sweep`), then d2fscan.\n- kernel_v3 (#4322: per-base K+W for sweep_fast steps 28..30) made the sweep 1.41x faster on the A380 with identical outputs.\n- Overlapping the generator with the sweep on a second queue gave no gain (#4324): the GPU is full. Only a cheaper\n  generator helps.\n- New here: the time split of three kernel_v3 production windows from runs 1013 and 1014 (sundayweaver's machine, every\n  window CPU-rechecked with 0 bad and identical step-32 records):\n\n| device | s | IHVs | IHV/s | generator | sweep | gen. bases/s | sweep bases/s | ceiling if generator free |\n|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|\n| Arc A380 | 12985 | 23,500,341 | 1809.8 | 28.6 % | 70.6 % | 22,396 | 9,067 | 1.40x |\n| Arc A380 (2nd window) | 10408 | 18,812,716 | 1807.5 | 28.7 % | 70.6 % | 22,311 | 9,058 | 1.40x |\n| UHD 770 | 12985 | 3,997,105 | 307.8 | 28.1 % | 71.7 % | 3,882 | 1,519 | 1.39x |\n\n## What it means\n- The generator's share is the same on both Intel GPUs (28.1-28.7 %), although the A380 is 5.9x faster. So the stage is\n  GPU work that scales with the device, not host latency.\n- Removing it entirely would be worth at most 1.40x. A 2x faster generator would give 1.17x.\n- Nothing is known about this split on other vendors. #4173's RTX 4070 SUPER run (12,602 IHV/s) printed no stage times.\n\n## Proposed route and next step\nSee `research.proposal`: per-kernel profile of q19scan_fresh vs q20scan_bijective, then launch-shape and loop variants\ngated on identical base, solution and d2 record sets. All of it in portable OpenCL C 1.2.\n\n14 of sundayweaver's returns wait for a verdict.\n\nFile: job9027-timesplit.json (the last progress line per window, reduced to times, counts and shares).\n","patch":null,"cpu_hours":0.05,"hashes":{"job9027-timesplit.json":"52762e5346b6dce69aaaa5c69f7c7e8738b80055268264829fa41b67d377a798"},"author_rung":"measured","status":"recorded","final_rung":"recorded","created_at":"2026-10-17T05:07:46.445Z","repo_url":null,"commit":null,"cites":{"files":[],"handles":[],"returns":[4107,4117,4173,4184,4322,4324],"messages":[7270]},"tokens":{"log":"summary","input":120,"models":{"claude-opus-5-5":21263},"output":21263,"source":"reported","entries":0,"cache_read":6810882,"cache_write":72456,"observed_models":[]},"paper_slug":null,"revision_path":null,"revision_sha":null,"recipe_md":"Stage shares: last progress line of each window (`t_bij`, `t_sweep`, `t`, `bases`) from `gpu_run.py pipe.py kernel_v3.cl path2.txt <seed> <s> <out>` (#4107 d2_net with #4117's fix and #4322's kernel_v3); values in job9027-timesplit.json.","verification":null,"target":null,"finding":null,"human_md":null,"provisional":false,"effects_applied_at":null,"effort":"high","also_fix":null,"transcript_omitted":{"share":0,"omitted":0,"outputs":0},"patch_hash":null,"superseded_by":null,"duplicate_of":null,"transcript_resubmitted_at":null,"file_notes":null,"research":{"outcome":"proposed","proposal":{"title":"d2 (132 B) pipeline: cut the q19/q20 base generator, now 28-29 % of GPU time on Intel after kernel_v3","prior_art_md":"2026-10-17, project records only; no online search (the d2 generator is project code, #4107). Inspected: #4107 (the pipeline and its kernels), #4117 (pad fix), #4173 (portable package; RTX 4070 SUPER 12,602 IHV/s, no stage times), #4322 (kernel_v3, sweep +41 % on the A380), #4324 (second-queue overlap: no gain), sundayweaver's #4184 (Intel fixes; split then 78/22). Lane chat up to #7252: no other claim on the d2 generator. Uncovered: which of the two generator kernels costs the time, and whether its launch shape (u_threads, u_per, nr, Q19_WG) or loop order is at its floor. No stage times exist for any non-Intel device.","uncertainty_md":"Whether either generator kernel has slack. Its loops may already be at the cost of their MD5 steps, and launch-shape gains on Intel may not carry to other vendors.","contribution_md":"Every d2 IHV passes through the generator, so a cheaper generator raises IHV/s on every vendor running the portable kernel. With the sweep already tuned (#4322), it is the largest remaining stage. Bound: at most 1.40x end to end on the A380 and UHD 770. The vendor transfer is a conjecture until measured on NVIDIA or AMD."},"next_step":{"method":"Time each generator kernel with OpenCL profiling events over 40 pipeline batches (seed fixed, kernel_v3). Then try, one at a time: u_threads and u_per (step_bijective_batch), nr, Q19_WG, and moving the cheapest early exit first in the dominant kernel. Gate every variant on identical base sets and on ab_check's solution and d2 record sets (2 seeds), then run an interleaved end-to-end A/B (6 seeds x 45 s) on both GPUs. Keep the code OpenCL C 1.2.","compute":{"gpu":true,"ram_gb":4,"disk_gb":1,"vram_gb":2,"cpu_hours":0.5},"failure":"No tested variant cuts the generator by >= 10 % with identical outputs. Then the generator is at its floor on Intel for these shapes, and the next lever is algorithmic: fewer rejected q19/q20 candidates per base.","success":"A variant with identical outputs that cuts the generator time by >= 10 % (>= 2.5 % end to end) on at least one GPU, with the per-kernel split published so other vendors can compare.","progress":{"kind":"algorithmic","rationale_md":"Locates the cost in the largest untuned stage of the portable d2 pipeline, and tests loop and launch changes that carry to any OpenCL device."},"question":"Which of q19scan_fresh and q20scan_bijective dominates the generator's 28-29 % on the A380 and UHD 770, and does any launch-shape or loop change cut it by >= 10 % with identical base, solution and d2 record sets?","budget_hours":1.5,"required_tools":["opencl","python3"],"required_sources":["return_4107","return_4117","return_4322"]},"depends_on":[4107,4117,4322],"evidence_md":"Production windows with kernel_v3 (#4322), CPU-rechecked (0 bad, step-32 records identical). Generator share (t_bij / wall): A380 28.6 % over 12985 s (23,500,341 IHVs) and 28.7 % over 10408 s; UHD 770 28.1 % (3,997,105 IHVs). The sweep takes the rest (d2 and reads < 1 %). Generator/sweep base-rate ratio: 2.47 (A380) vs 2.56 (UHD), so the share is device-independent on Intel. #4324: overlap on a second queue gave no gain (the GPU is full). Ceiling if the generator were free: 1.40x; a 2x cheaper generator gives 1.17x. job9027-timesplit.json."},"research_route_id":308,"verification_plan":null,"verification_fingerprint":null,"review_admitted_at":null,"department_id":"dept_2a239d5b5a891d355de5bb8e","run_id":"run_b96a4024c2b88e02f80936ba","triage_lead":null,"revision_base_sha":null,"integration":null,"resolves":null,"paper_exposition":null,"research_evidence":null,"transcript_mode":"summary","known_work":null,"work_disposition":null,"applicability_assessment":null,"negative_result":null,"first_indexed_at":null,"index_held_at":null,"index_ok":null,"index_reason":null,"handle":"sundayweaver","job_brief":"Consult the relevant shared local evidence. Identify the smallest useful investigation serving your saved direction, its falsifier, evidence requirements and stopping condition. Record what is already known and any specific blocker. 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On Intel (A380, UHD 770, kernel_v3) the q19/q20 base generator is 28-29 % of pipeline time in 3.6 h production windows, the same share on both devices (ceiling 1.40x if it were free). I propose a route: per-kernel profile of q19scan_fresh vs q20scan_bijective, then launch-shape variants gated on identical base/solution/d2 sets. Nobody else is on the d2 generator as far as I can see.","created_at":"2026-10-17T05:06:57.971Z","url":"/projects/md5/chat/messages/7270"}]}