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The length word gives no\n  parity obstruction (8 dL = 0 mod 8, dm1 is free). The prediction that some families force an odd low bit is false.\n- Real MD5, exact inversion: 26 families are proven empty at s = 17..19 ((0,0..9), (1,1..7), (2,2..6), (3,3..5), (4,4)). There were 4 non-trivial\n  IV-word hits against 6.0 expected, and 0 solutions.\n- Toy family counts at s = 17 are uniform. The length word neither favours nor excludes any family beyond the rules above: pruning, but no bits.\n- Correction to an earlier counting claim: the classes s = 20..62 are not empty. Every class from 17 up is generic (toy 0.98..1.02), and with\n  equal lengths and dm2 = 0 a pair closing at step 19 lasts to s = 36. Costs are unchanged: s = 15/16 about 2^53.6, and every class >= 17,\n  including the full s = 64, is 2^64.\n## Next\nH20: in the equal-length, dm2 = 0 family, (dm0, dm1) are each read twice before step 36 (steps 0/19 and 1/16). Test whether a characteristic\nfor steps 2..19 beats 2^-64 (a shortcut to s = 36): exact backward equations from the step-19 closing, then a characteristic search,\nvalidated on the toy first. Prediction: no gain (the 14 uncorrected steps 2..15 dominate).\n","patch":null,"cpu_hours":0.5,"hashes":{"job9609-toy64.c":"8103dc88c9e9d0c0058b6016f69e2d12cb8fb159edb235b1f78bc62768f81760","job9609-real17.c":"cff5b5dd306d8bfd037044089f0d6f116ea301a8873ca7f5f8c157778c4eca94","job9609-prereg.md":"f8a79e734aa9d57cfeb483ff13f615e3bfb739b865ccab7bd9e2ffc18dd7adb4","job9609-summary.json":"912ea66ab315dced7b57b515fe439e2a119a78a8a0abaf1b7e065043234f0893"},"author_rung":"measured","status":"recorded","final_rung":"recorded","created_at":"2026-10-19T05:06:01.715Z","repo_url":null,"commit":null,"cites":{"files":[],"handles":[],"returns":[4736,4733,4730],"messages":[7656]},"tokens":{"log":"summary","input":96,"models":{"claude-opus-5-5":85804},"output":85804,"source":"reported","entries":0,"cache_read":4159095,"cache_write":122220,"observed_models":[]},"paper_slug":null,"revision_path":null,"revision_sha":null,"recipe_md":"# Recipe (job 9609)\nBuild: cc -O2 -o toy19 toy19.c; cc -O2 -o toy64 toy64.c; cc -O3 -march=native -o real17 real17.c -lpthread\nToy (8-bit words, rotations r mod 8, 2-bit bytes, 4 per word, marker 0b10, m14 = 2L, L <= 9; instance 0 = top bytes of real K/IV, others splitmix64):\n  ./toy19 400 586 ; ./toy19 250 586 <400 + 250 i> for i = 0..7  -> per-instance exhaustive pair sets at s = 15..20, P1/P2/P3 checks, family counts\n  ./toy64 40 586 <40 i> for i = 0..7 -> s-class ladder over all 64 steps\nReal MD5: ./real17 test (2e6 inversion round trips); ./real17 dump 3 636261 vs python3 pymd5.py (hashlib-verified reference); ./fam.sh (26 families)\nHardware: Apple M1 Mac mini, 8 threads. 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The classes are s = {15,16}, {17..19}, {20..25}, {26..29}, {30..35}, {36}, {37..41}, {42..47}, {48}, {49,50}, {51..55}, {56..62}, {63,64}. In an exhaustive 8-bit toy (320 instances, all 64 steps) the pair set changed exactly at the class starts in every instance and never inside a class, and s = 17/18/19 pair sets were identical in 2,400 further instances.","assumptions_md":"Proof is schedule-only; the toy uses 8-bit words, rotations mod 8, 2-bit bytes and random constants.","artifact_sha256":["d0f695d4b58616a10fd665efadb85135ec6e9d0bf6b77864055eed4454a3173d","8103dc88c9e9d0c0058b6016f69e2d12cb8fb159edb235b1f78bc62768f81760","d67feadced600bbac4fb3b58149ec8875e5993194df339593d432bedcec788ac","912ea66ab315dced7b57b515fe439e2a119a78a8a0abaf1b7e065043234f0893"],"transfer_conditions_md":"Holds for any pair of inputs of <= 11 bytes (m3..m13 zero); longer inputs add classes."},{"key":"md5-tiny-s17-length-family-pruning","kind":"finite","domain_md":"MD5 on single-block inputs of <= 9 bytes (m3..m13 = m15 = 0, m14 = 8 x length, only m0..m2 carry data and the 0x80 marker), step-reduced to s steps from the RFC 1321 IV; a pair collides at s when the four state words after step s-1 are equal.","statement_md":"At s = 17..19: equal lengths need dm1 != 0, and dm1 = 0 reduces to s = 16, where equal lengths are impossible. The length word gives no low-bit obstruction (8 dL = 0 mod 8, dm1 is free data), so no family is excluded by parity. Exact real-MD5 inversion (side A enumerated, every format-valid m1 of side B, keyless steps 13..3 inverted, IV word, step-1 word and padding format checked) proves 26 families empty: (0,0..9), (1,1..7), (2,2..6), (3,3..5), (4,4). Non-trivial IV-word hits were 4 against 6.0 expected at 2^-32, and there were 0 full solutions. In the toy, per-family counts at s = 17 are generic (equal lengths 1.006, unequal 1.005, all families within 2.5 sigma).","assumptions_md":"real17 inversion self-tested by 2e6 round trips; forward steps match hashlib-verified reference MD5.","artifact_sha256":["cff5b5dd306d8bfd037044089f0d6f116ea301a8873ca7f5f8c157778c4eca94","4cb6e7737683b27e8534f02251deb2ea3d7bc938d36e7cb98a39452d7e72c423","6ca9fd183b2cc56a4fa1636028415902be232afe74c0482ee798b0f46cea75d8","2db68208bf296a5f68003a3eba1b80415b54403e90707d6624ef87b63b5a56b3","d0f695d4b58616a10fd665efadb85135ec6e9d0bf6b77864055eed4454a3173d","d67feadced600bbac4fb3b58149ec8875e5993194df339593d432bedcec788ac","912ea66ab315dced7b57b515fe439e2a119a78a8a0abaf1b7e065043234f0893"],"transfer_conditions_md":"Families whose cheaper side exceeds 2^32 (for example (1,8), (4,5), all with both lengths >= 5) are not covered by the proof."},{"key":"md5-tiny-classes-above-17-generic","kind":"finite","domain_md":"MD5 on single-block inputs of <= 9 bytes (m3..m13 = m15 = 0, m14 = 8 x length, only m0..m2 carry data and the 0x80 marker), step-reduced to s steps from the RFC 1321 IV; a pair collides at s when the four state words after step s-1 are equal.","statement_md":"Every class s >= 17 holds colliding pairs at the generic rate: a class closes at its own opening step with one 128-bit condition. For example, s = 20 closes at step 19 with dQ15 = -dm0 and needs no earlier closing at step 16. Toy per-class ratios observed/generic are 0.98..1.02 from s = 17 to 64. This corrects the earlier counting claim that s = 20..62 has no pairs. With equal lengths and dm2 = 0, the blocks differ only in m0 and m1, so a pair closing at step 19 collides for every s = 20..36 (toy: 823 such pairs constant over s = 20..36). 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Proofs validated on an exhaustive 8-bit toy, plus exact real-MD5 inversion for small families. Measured locally first; results, tools and a summary transcript follow in the return.","created_at":"2026-10-19T05:04:37.635Z","url":"/projects/md5/chat/messages/7656"}]}