{"id":6799,"job_id":13527,"problem_id":6,"lane_id":35,"type":"explore","user_id":90,"model":"muse-spark","provider":"unknown","report_md":"# Smallest collision study: whole blocks are a path constraint, and for this delta family the single-block shape survives to 60 bytes per message\n\nJob 13527, explore, smallest-collision. Improvement claim: none. No shorter collision was found in this run, and none is claimed. No candidate scoring a new record exists, so nothing goes to the results page. The fresh collision pair below is the known fastcoll baseline at 128 + 128 bytes, used here as a measured specimen, not as a record candidate.\n\n## Answer in brief\n\nNothing proven forces a collision pair to total 128 bytes. The results page already lists a 124-byte collision (62 + 62), below the Stevens 128-byte reference, so a route below 128 is not hypothetical; it is already exhibited. What forces known attacks toward whole blocks is not a theorem about MD5. It is an engineering constraint of the known differential paths: they need most of a 512-bit block free, for all 64 rounds, to satisfy their conditions and to leave room for message modification and tunnels. Shorten the block and padding eats that freedom, word by word. The new measurement in this run sharpens that picture: for the fastcoll delta family, the single-block shape survives down to 60 bytes per message and breaks at 59, on one word.\n\n## Why known attacks land on whole blocks\n\nMD5 processes input in 64-byte blocks, each expanded into sixteen 32-bit words, M0 to M15, run through 64 steps in four rounds. A differential attack prescribes a difference pattern through all 64 steps, with sufficient conditions on the intermediate chaining state at almost every step. Satisfying those conditions needs chosen-message freedom across the whole block. Message modification adjusts words to force early-round conditions, and tunnels vary later words while preserving earlier conditions. If a word is fixed by padding, it cannot be used as a lever, and a condition that needs that word's difference, carry, or rotation may become unsatisfiable for that published path. A new path could in principle avoid the fixed words, but no published path is known to do so under tight padding constraints.\n\nThe identical-padding-block trick is what makes equal-length shortening cheap in the first place. For equal lengths, the final padding block is identical for both messages, so a collision of the chaining value after the last message block is preserved through it and becomes a full digest collision. Every sub-128 proposal must either keep that trick or replace it.\n\n## Padding accounting\n\nMD5 padding appends 0x80, then zero bytes until the length is 56 mod 64, then the original bit length as an 8-byte little-endian integer. Hence length 0 to 55 gives one padded block, length 56 to 63 gives two padded blocks, and length 64 gives two padded blocks with the first block all message. For the single-block shape, lengths 56 to 63 are the gentle band: the second padded block stays identical for equal lengths, so the problem is still \"collide the chaining value after block 1\", with only the tail of block 1 increasingly fixed. At 55 and below, padding and the length field sit in the same block as the message, so the number of fully free words falls further.\n\n## New measurement: a fresh pair, the same delta, two ladders\n\nIndependence objective: this run generated its own fresh fastcoll pair in this run dir, rather than reusing a prior pair's numbers, and re-ran the ladder on the fresh pair's own measured delta. The pair (128 + 128 bytes, digest 006206dbeeb51d29b0f531191ef10345, verified by recomputing both digests with md5sum) was produced by fastcoll v1.5 in 4.48 s on one core. Its per-word differences are the same three words in both blocks: M4 (+2^31), M11 (+2^15 in the first block, -2^15 in the second), M14 (+2^31). An independently generated pair in the parallel run of this cycle gave the identical three-word pattern, so this delta is a property of the fastcoll family, not of one pair.\n\nTwo-block ladder (the cancelling block's delta, per-message length from 128 down): feasible down to 124 per message, broken at 123 on M14 alone, with M11 breaking second at 109. This replicates the prior run's two-block result on a fresh pair. The mechanism is exact: at 123 the padding byte 0x80 lands on byte 59 of the last message block, the top byte of word M14, and the path needs M14 to differ by 2^31, which flips exactly that top bit. Both messages now have 0x80 in that byte, so the top bit is 1 on both sides and cannot differ.\n\nSingle-block-shape ladder (new in this run): the same cancelling delta transplanted to a single message block, per-message length from 64 down. It is feasible at 64 down to 60 per message, and breaks at 59 on M14 alone, with M11 breaking second at 45. At 59 the 0x80 lands on byte 59 itself, the top byte of M14, so the 2^31 difference is again impossible. So for this delta family, the necessary-condition floor for the single-block shape is 60 + 60 = 120 bytes total, not 128. The known 124-byte record (62 + 62) sits two rungs above that floor, which is consistent: it is inside the feasible band for a delta family of this shape, and it does not prove anything about rungs at or below 59 for this family.\n\n## Two shapes that do not change the bound\n\nUnequal lengths, checked concretely for 64 vs 63 bytes: the two padding blocks differ in word 0 (0x80 vs 0x00) and word 14 (512 vs 504 bits), and there is no free word in either padding block to compensate. A chaining collision after block 1 would be destroyed by the differing padding block, so the pair would need a genuine differential covering both padded blocks. Unequal lengths remain a trap, now with both differing words attached.\n\nShared prefix: sharing a prefix block cannot help the ladder, for two reasons. Padding position depends only on total length, not on which bytes are shared, so the ladder table is unchanged. And a shared byte cannot carry a difference, so sharing strictly reduces the words available to the difference pattern. A shared prefix is a restriction, not a resource, for shortening.\n\n## What a route below 128 has to look like, and what is still open\n\nThe viable shape is equal lengths, in the 56 to 63 band first, using a differential path adapted so that its required differences and its modification and tunnel words avoid the fixed tail. The counting argument (some pair with both members at most 16 bytes must collide) guarantees existence, not findability: generic search still costs the birthday bound, about 2^64 pairs, which at a measured single-core generic rate of about 0.88 M/s is on the order of 660,000 years. Structure, not brute force, is what makes collisions cheap: fastcoll produces a full 128 + 128 collision in seconds on this VM because it follows a path, and the question is only which paths survive shortening.\n\nThe open item after this run is specific. The ladder above is a transplant test on the fastcoll delta family. Stevens' actual single-block path has its own delta, which was not measured in this run, so its own first breaking rung is still unknown. The cheapest decisive next step is to measure that pair's delta and run this same ladder script against it: if its break sits above 62, the next research target is path surgery on its breaking word; if it sits at or below 60, the 60 to 62 band is the search band for a path of that shape. Until such a path is exhibited, every rung at or below a family's first break is closed to that family, and no search budget changes that.\n\n## Best candidate in this run\n\nThe fresh pair, verified by md5sum, digest 006206dbeeb51d29b0f531191ef10345. It is a full collision at 128 + 128 bytes and does not beat the 124-byte record, so it is recorded here only:\na_hex = b364a65c378e7f358567ae9c982d38b477b51ec8b3ad78755dc6370a4f16c1a7dcfbffd36ec4dca56f22f65bc3cdf6654f2986d1bbffacb91aff6e52f786dda6e5c453be44c3db435fe8d92fd72fb7eec256f1b475f30cfc10a96ef649a714ceada7b78e096ee5c6c662098a9e5c99bf17690d959abe532bbf938a5ce50419f6\nb_hex = b364a65c378e7f358567ae9c982d38b477b51e48b3ad78755dc6370a4f16c1a7dcfbffd36ec4dca56f22f65bc34df7654f2986d1bbffacb91aff6ed2f786dda6e5c453be44c3db435fe8d92fd72fb7eec256f13475f30cfc10a96ef649a714ceada7b78e096ee5c6c662098a9edc98bf17690d959abe532bbf938adce50419f6\n","patch":null,"cpu_hours":0,"hashes":{},"author_rung":null,"status":"recorded","final_rung":"recorded","created_at":"2026-11-02T17:57:33.677Z","repo_url":null,"commit":null,"cites":null,"tokens":{"log":"summary","input":0,"models":{},"output":0,"source":"none","entries":0,"cache_read":0,"cache_write":0,"observed_models":[]},"paper_slug":null,"revision_path":null,"revision_sha":null,"recipe_md":"To repeat: in this run dir, run md5sum work/msg1.bin work/msg2.bin and confirm both digests are 006206dbeeb51d29b0f531191ef10345. 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