{"id":6979,"job_id":13760,"problem_id":6,"lane_id":35,"type":"measure","user_id":90,"model":"muse-spark","provider":"unknown","report_md":"# Dense path B2 has no padding-feasible completion at L=61/62/63; the 240 s unknowns were timeouts, and the verdicts are UNSAT\n\nJob 13760, measure, smallest-collision. Improvement claim: none.\nNo shorter collision was found, and none is claimed. Nothing goes\nto the results page.\n\n## Hypothesis\n\nThe dense path B2 (221 conditions) read UNKNOWN at L=62 and L=63\nin the prior cycle's ladder (job 13728, 240 s cap), while the\nsparse paths resolved in ~1.5 s. The hypothesis: those UNKNOWNs\nwere timeout artifacts, not UNSAT, and a 1200 s cap resolves them.\nA repeat of the L=61 dense instance (UNSAT in 78.04 s last cycle)\ntests the reported ~10x run-to-run solve-time variance.\n\n## Experiment\n\nLocal padsat ladder (tools/r298/padscan.py, z3 5.3.3, QF_BV rows\n1..16, XF dm m5+2^10/m10+2^31, 1200 s cap), dense path B2 only,\none core (a parallel self-match cell ran on the other core).\nEnvironment notes: the system z3 was gone after the recent VM\nresets, so z3-solver 5.3.3 was installed fresh; padscan.py needs\nits job8641 helpers on the Python path, since the relative path\nit inserts points at a directory that does not exist.\n\n## Results\n\n| path | L | result | solve time |\n|---|---|---|---|\n| dense B2, 221 conds | 62 | UNSAT | 46.23 s |\n| dense B2, 221 conds | 63 | UNSAT | 607.42 s |\n| dense B2, 221 conds | 61 (repeat) | UNSAT | 52.47 s (prior: 78.04 s) |\n\nBoth UNKNOWNs resolve as UNSAT with the longer cap, so the\nhypothesis is confirmed in the narrow sense: the timeouts were\nartifacts of the 240 s cap. But the verdicts are UNSAT, so dense\npath B2 has no padding-feasible completion at L=61, 62, or 63 on\nrows 1..16. That closes the B2 branch: the live sub-128 hopes\nstay with paths 12121 (126 B, T9 25) and 31561 (124 B, T9 21)\nfrom return 4373, not B2.\n\nTwo timing observations. First, solve time does not grow\nmonotonically as L shrinks: L=62 solved in 46 s while L=63 took\n607 s, and L=61 took 52 s. Cost tracks the instance and the\nsolver's search, not L alone. Second, the L=61 repeat landed at\n52.47 s against 78.04 s last cycle: same verdict, similar time,\nno 10x variance this run. The earlier ~10x variance (c0083 L=63:\n2.6 s probe vs 25.82 s ladder) was on a sparse path with a\ndifferent model each run, not on this dense instance.\n\n## Relation to the published survey\n\nReturn 4373 (recorded, explore) is the current state of the art\nfor this track: save-all padding-aware connect gives 1,238\nfeasible joins at L=63 including T9 25 x2, and generator rates put\n126 B path 12121 at projected 2^27.07 M1 thread-s per pair, below\nthe served 128 B cost. Return 4349 gives the padding-filter\nconnect (126 B path 79, T9 24). Return 4276 rules out L<=60 by\nthe m15 wall. This job's result removes one candidate family\n(B2) from that picture without touching 12121/31561: those paths\nwere not re-tested here and remain live.\n\n## Answer\n\nDense B2 is out at L=61..63. The binding limit for a sub-128\ncollision is still generator speed on the live paths, not path\nquality or padding.\n\n## Cheapest next experiment\n\nReturn 4373's route, still open: run connect with --Qcondstart 25\nand the Q9 objective over the F12 x BK25 sets so connect\nmaximises tunnel minus Q25..Q64 conditions, then padsat at\nL=61..63 and the gxr pilots. That needs the connect inputs and a\nconnect_all rebuild on this machine. The cheaper alternative on\nthis VM is gxr pilots on path 12121, which needs no connect run.\n","patch":null,"cpu_hours":0,"hashes":{},"author_rung":null,"status":"pending","final_rung":null,"created_at":"2026-11-05T13:46:52.319Z","repo_url":null,"commit":null,"cites":null,"tokens":{"log":"summary","input":0,"models":{},"output":0,"source":"none","entries":0,"cache_read":0,"cache_write":0,"observed_models":[]},"paper_slug":null,"revision_path":null,"revision_sha":null,"recipe_md":"# Recipe\n\nTo repeat, on one core:\n\n1. Install z3-solver (pip) if the system z3 is gone, and put\n   the padscan helpers on the Python path\n   (PYTHONPATH=tools/r298/job8641).\n2. Verify padscan.py on the sparse c0083 path at L=63\n   (expect SAT in a few seconds).\n3. Run: padscan.py OUT.jsonl 0 1 1200 \"5:10,10:31\" \"62 63\"\n   tools/r296/paths-best_B2_c18.txt, then repeat with \"61\".\n4. 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Running fastcoll gives 128 + 128 bytes from known techniques; it is the baseline to measure against. Ideas to test: where the single-block attacks spend their work, whether a shorter second member or a shared prefix can change the bound, what a 64 + 64 search would cost on your machine. Start from the algorithm, not the search. Read the track's state of the art in this brief (the fastest known way per machine, what worked, the dead ends) and research/QUESTIONS.md, then state one hypothesis about MD5's structure that would make this track cheaper than generic search, and why you expect it. Test it with the smallest experiment that could refute it, against a measured baseline on the same machine. Submit the best candidates the experiment produced. The report is a finding: the hypothesis, the experiment, what it showed about MD5 (positive or negative, with numbers), and what the next run should try. Send what you learned as a state_entry with your return (the method, the exact hardware, the measured throughput, the best reached), so the track's state of the art carries it. 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