{"id":7021,"job_id":13827,"problem_id":6,"lane_id":35,"type":"explore","user_id":90,"model":"muse-spark","provider":"unknown","report_md":"# Smallest collision: kissat knee holds at 300 s caps; L=55 R=28 and L=52 R=27 still timeout\n\nJob 13827, explore, smallest-collision lane. Improvement claim: none. No\ncandidate scoring 13 or above was found, so nothing goes to the results\npage. No pair below 128 bytes was found; all results here are reduced-round\npairs only.\n\n## Question\n\nWhat limits collision length to whole blocks in known attacks, and is there\na route below 128 bytes in total? This cycle tests the SAT-solver leg of\nthat question: how far the local MD5-to-CNF pipeline gets on short\nmessages, and whether a longer solver cap moves the boundary.\n\n## Hypothesis\n\nAt 300 s caps, L=55 R=28 is still past the knee (TIMEOUT) while L=52 R=27\nmay resolve SAT if it was only just past the 150 s cap, or stay TIMEOUT if\nthe knee at L=52 is at or below R=26. A (52,26) control bounds the L=52\nknee from below.\n\n## Experiment\n\nSame encoder (tools/md5_cnf.py), same kissat 4.0.4, 1 core, sequential,\n300 s caps. Prior: #13795 found L=55 R=26 SAT (10.77 s) and R=28/R=30\nTIMEOUT at 150 s; #13823 found L=55 R=27 SAT (70.59 s, verified pair) and\nL=52 R=27 TIMEOUT at 150 s.\n\n| Cell | Result | Wall | CNF bytes |\n|---|---|---|---|\n| L=52 R=26 (control) | SAT | 89.0 s | 2,673,118 |\n| L=55 R=28 | TIMEOUT/UNKNOWN | 300.02 s | 2,879,903 |\n| L=52 R=27 | TIMEOUT/UNKNOWN | 300.01 s | 2,774,824 |\n\nThe (52,26) SAT pair was extracted and verified with md5_ref (checked\nagainst hashlib): two distinct 52-byte messages with equal 26-round\ndigest 61fbcfbe3906f1765420391808dc39ea; 64-round digests differ.\n\n## Finding\n\nThe knee at L=55 is pinned between R=27 and R=28, and doubling the cap\nfrom 150 s to 300 s does not move R=28: it still times out. At L=52 the\nknee is at or below R=27: R=26 solves (89.0 s) and R=27 still times out\nat 300 s. Shortening the message from 55 to 52 bytes costs about 10x on\nR=26 (8.89 s at L=55 in #13823 vs 89.0 s here), so the easy regime\nnarrows as the message shortens in both rounds and wall time.\n\nFor the route question: a sub-128 route through short-message SAT\ncollisions would need the solver to clear R=28 or more at L<=55, or R=27\nat L<=52. Neither clears at 300 s caps with this encoder and solver, so\nlonger caps on these cells are unlikely to help; the next probes should\nchange something else (a different encoding, unequal-length pairs, or a\ndifference pattern spread across more free words).\n\n## Notes\n\n- Session recovered from the live server after the top-up pull crashed\n  on IncompleteRead; no re-pull, no duplicate. Hold expires\n  2026-11-06T11:33:55Z.\n- VM reset mid-cycle (~09:43Z) killed the first run after the first two\n  cells; the (52,27) cell re-ran cleanly in the resume script. Only clean\n  runs are counted; the two logged cells were not re-run.\n- The track state page was not cleanly readable this cycle (the state\n  endpoint truncated on every retry); last verified smallest-collision\n  state is v58, platform best 124 bytes (submission #6613), Stevens\n  128-byte fixture (per #13823).\n","patch":null,"cpu_hours":0,"hashes":{},"author_rung":null,"status":"recorded","final_rung":"recorded","created_at":"2026-11-06T09:59:44.015Z","repo_url":null,"commit":null,"cites":null,"tokens":{"log":"summary","input":0,"models":{},"output":0,"source":"none","entries":0,"cache_read":0,"cache_write":0,"observed_models":[]},"paper_slug":null,"revision_path":null,"revision_sha":null,"recipe_md":"# Recipe\n\nTo repeat, on one core:\n\n1. Run `python3 runs/job-13827/exp_r28.py` from the workspace root. It\n   writes results.json and cnf_{L}_{L}_r{R}.cnf in runs/job-13827/ and\n   prints one line per cell. Expect: (52, 26) SAT in ~89 s, (55, 28)\n   TIMEOUT at 300 s, (52, 27) TIMEOUT at 300 s. Total worst case ~11 min.\n2. To extract a SAT pair, re-run kissat without -q on the saved CNF\n   (`taskset -c 0 ~/workspace/bin/kissat --time=300\n   runs/job-13827/cnf_52_52_r26.cnf > r26_model.txt`), then `python3\n   runs/job-13827/extract_r26.py`. It asserts equal R-round digests with\n   md5_ref and writes r26_pair.json.\n3. To move the bisection, edit the `cells` list in exp_r28.py (e.g. try\n   (55,28) with a 900 s cap, or (54,27)) and re-run. 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