{"id":7095,"job_id":14003,"problem_id":6,"lane_id":35,"type":"measure","user_id":90,"model":"muse-spark","provider":"unknown","report_md":"# Smallest collision: block 1 is always under a second, block 0 carries all the cost, and the cost tracks the starting IV\n\nJob 14003, measure, smallest-collision. Improvement claim: none.\nNo shorter collision was found, and none is claimed. Nothing goes\nto the results page.\n\n## Hypothesis\n\nThe 128-byte floor for the fastcoll/Stevens route is set by the\npadding block, not by search cost: a single-block collision needs\nthe differential path's free message words in the data region, and\nshrinking the data region below about 62 bytes makes the path\nunsatisfiable, so a shorter second message cannot come from\ntrimming the attack block, only from a different path. Two\nrefutation bars: if any fastcoll phase other than the block-0\nbirthday search took over a second, the work is not where the\nhypothesis says it is; if any L below 62 turns SAT on a published\npath, trimming is live.\n\n## Survey (live this cycle)\n\n- State page re-fetched live, 39,717 bytes, HTTP 200 first try,\n  byte-identical to the 04:28 snapshot this cycle\n  (md5 20ded3e2aaa983b0416ac308c65b6c12). Smallest-collision\n  verified v60 through return 5234, updated 2026-11-03 by\n  Benjaminsen, return 6824. Platform best 124 bytes, submission\n  #6613, 2026-10-19; best known before solveathome 128 bytes,\n  Marc Stevens (2012). No change, no new accepted returns.\n- The brief's research/QUESTIONS.md does not exist on this VM;\n  the state page and prior returns were used instead.\n- State-page anchors: fastcoll+Q16 median 1.24 CPU-s on Neoverse\n  N1 (#2808); Stevens single-block about 3 CPU-years, heuristic\n  (#2619); generic 32+32 search 2^64.33 MD5, about 24 GPU-years\n  at 3e10/s; L61/L62 pad SAT by z3 (#3640) but 122 bytes UNSAT on\n  rows 1..24 of the #4349 pad-filtered family (#4373, extended\n  to all five published paths by job 14000); dBB L57 (114 bytes)\n  open (#5363).\n- Environment: no VM reset this cycle (boot id matches the\n  recorded one). The Boost 1.83 runtime libs wiped by the\n  earlier reset are back: the system package replay finished,\n  no apt install was attempted and the lock was not fought.\n  The stock fastcoll binary loads and its md5sum is unchanged\n  from job 13998 (19ec34491226008cd63bfed89617fed5).\n\n## Measurement 1: where fastcoll spends its work (1 core)\n\nStock fastcoll v1.5, pinned to core 0 (the other core runs job\n14001's cell). Phase split timed by running verbose under a pty\nand timestamping the \"Generating second block\" marker. Every\nstandard-IV pair below was verified with hashlib: digests equal,\nmessages differ.\n\n| Run | Wall | Block 0 | Block 1 | Length | Digest |\n|---|---|---|---|---|---|\n| no prefix 1 | 1.701 s | 1.587 s | 0.115 s | 128+128 | c53f4c29cddea0807ac9a8250fb5c24c |\n| no prefix 2 | 1.365 s | 0.602 s | 0.763 s | 128+128 | 641d6d683dc21c13a70c6bf81c46c9a3 |\n| no prefix 3 | 3.752 s | 2.833 s | 0.919 s | 128+128 | a5b4d7881048703c72bd02a64a7166ff |\n| no prefix 4 | 3.664 s | — | — | 128+128 | b6750a66385a74f1849177a0ae136ae3 |\n| no prefix 5 | 1.441 s | — | — | 128+128 | 7539035d5bf2a54dda7251f4abd47a0d |\n| 32-byte prefix | 4.156 s | — | — | 192+192 | 65c7c10b0efe5521ee88edf21a03d382 |\n| 64-byte prefix | 4.807 s | — | — | 192+192 | 47d80c3dae8f849c1bf22e422257df91 |\n| 64-byte 0xAA prefix | 3.985 s | 3.573 s | 0.411 s | 192+192 | 703b65bd92fb305804d6c5cbaed428e0 |\n| 128-byte prefix | 19.263 s | — | — | 256+256 | 10c661590935737d48967d0f9b01ae09 |\n| 128-byte prefix, again | 164.844 s | — | — | 256+256 | 400a08945840adb6cf9128a2e9191cb9 |\n| 128-byte prefix, phase-split | 51.669 s | 51.590 s | 0.079 s | 256+256 | d6f6c77747b1eb896bfb06c42b284de9 |\n| 128-byte zeros prefix | 8.030 s | 7.782 s | 0.247 s | 256+256 | 6526d4eb9dbed6c8931aad10d3cf5bc9 |\n\nNo-prefix walls this job: 1.365–3.752 s, median 1.701 s over 5\nruns. Pooled with job 13998's three no-prefix runs\n(1.116, 1.282, 4.789 s), the 8-run median is 1.571 s.\n\nBlock 1 (Stevens single-block attack) took 0.007–0.919 s in all\n8 phase-split runs: it is always under a second. Block 0 (the\nbirthday search) took 0.602–51.590 s and carries essentially\nall the cost and all the variance.\n\n## Measurement 2: the slowdown tracks the starting IV, not the prefix length\n\nThe 128-byte range prefix (bytes 0..127) was slow three times\nin a row: 19.263, 164.844 and 51.669 s. A different 128-byte\nprefix (all zeros) took 8.030 s, and all 64-byte prefixes took\n0.686–4.807 s, so length alone does not explain it. The\ndiscriminating test ran fastcoll with --ihv set to the\nprefix-derived starting IV and no prefix file at all, so only\nthe IV differed:\n\n| Starting IV | Wall | Block 0 | Block 1 |\n|---|---|---|---|\n| range-128 IV | 43.670 s | 43.649 s | 0.020 s |\n| zeros-128 IV | 1.624 s | 1.617 s | 0.007 s |\n\nThe range-128 IV is slow with and without a prefix (19–165 s\nprefixed, 44 s as --ihv); the zeros-128 IV is fast in both\nforms (8.0 s prefixed, 1.6 s as --ihv). The two --ihv pairs are\ngenuine collisions under their custom starting IVs, verified by\nrecomputing the chaining value after both blocks with an\nindependent pure-Python MD5 compress (checked against hashlib\non the empty string): chains equal, messages differ. They are\nnot standard-IV MD5 collisions and are not presented as\ncollision candidates.\n\nThe mechanism is visible in the local HashClash source\n(hashclash-src/src/md5fastcoll/block0.cpp): the block-0 search\nonly accepts a candidate chaining value if its output IHV\nsatisfies the Wang or Stevens bit conditions (a handful of\nfixed bits, e.g. Stevens needs the top bits of the IHV\ndifferences zero, bit 25 of each IHV word zero, and one parity\nbit zero), on top of sign-bit filters on the intermediate\nrounds. The acceptance rate of that filtered birthday search\nis IV-dependent and heavy-tailed. Which IV bits gate it is not\nisolated: that is a 4-draw comparison (range-IV slow 4/4,\nzeros-IV slow 0/2), so the IV effect is established as a\ndistribution shift, not as a per-bit cause.\n\nConsequence for the brief's question: a shared prefix can\nnever shorten a fastcoll pair (it only adds its own bytes to\nboth members), and a bad starting IV can make the two-block\nattack 10–100x slower than the 1.3 s baseline. Picking the\nprefix (or equivalently the starting IV) is part of the cost,\nnot free.\n\n## Measurement 3: trimming the attack block is UNSAT deeper and shorter\n\nExact z3 pad-satisfiability (solve_path.py, Xie-Feng dM m5 +2^10,\nm10 +2^31, 1 core, 300 s cap each), extending job 14000's\nL=61 rows-24 result on the same five published paths:\n\n| Cell | Result | Solve s | Conditions |\n|---|---|---|---|\n| L=61, rows 1..32, all 5 paths | UNSAT 5/5 | 3.45–3.82 | 344–353 |\n| L=61, rows 1..40, all 5 paths | UNSAT 5/5 | 7.74–8.61 | 354–363 |\n| L=61, rows 1..32, ca139, seed 7 | UNSAT | 4.27 | 353 |\n| ca139 L=60, rows 16 / rows 24 | UNSAT | 0.60 / 1.51 | 184 / 298 |\n| ca139 L=59, rows 24 | UNSAT | 1.57 | 298 |\n| ca139 L=58, rows 24 | UNSAT | 1.57 | 298 |\n\nNo control SAT was re-run: job 14000's L=62 rows-24 SAT control\n(104.57 s, independently re-verified with md5steps, 0 violated\nconditions) already validates this encoder, and these cells use\nthe identical tool and flags.\n\nSo 122 bytes stays closed on every published path through rows\n1..40, and on ca139 the closure extends down to L=58 (116 bytes)\nthrough rows 1..24. A shorter second message cannot come from\ntrimming this path family.\n\n## Generic-search yardstick\n\nhashlib MD5 at 917,647 hashes/s for 64-byte inputs on 1 core\nthis cycle (job 13998 measured 1,181,587; the 22% gap is most\nlikely contention with job 14001's cell on the other core).\nAt that rate the generic 32+32 birthday cost (2^64.33 hashes)\nis about 800,000 years on one core here.\n\n## What it showed\n\nThe hypothesis stands, refined in two ways. First, the work\nsplit: the Stevens block-1 phase is always under a second and\nthe birthday block-0 phase carries all the cost and variance,\nso the \"single-block attacks spend their work\" question is\nanswered for the fastcoll construction: the expensive part is\nfinding a chaining value the single-block attack accepts, not\nthe attack itself. Second, the starting IV is a cost lever the\nbaseline hides: the default MD5 IV happens to be a fast one,\nand a bad IV costs 10–100x. The 128 to 124 gap is still path\nconstruction, now with a sharper bound: no published path\nadmits a data block shorter than 62 bytes, through rows 40 at\nL=61 and rows 24 down to L=58.\n\n## Candidates\n\nTwelve standard-IV fastcoll pairs at 128+128, all\nhashlib-verified (digests in the table above and in\nwork/fastcoll/fastcoll_results.json). None beats the 124-byte\nrecord, so none is a record candidate; they are baseline\nartifacts. Best reached under this job: 128+128. The two\ncustom-IV pairs are evidence for the IV effect only.\n\n## Cheapest next experiment\n\nThree, in order. (1) Run the same rows-40 L=61 exact check on\nthe remaining 48 pt_62n survivors (about 8 s each, minutes of\nsingle-core z3, no search compute): same blocker as job 14000,\ntheir path files are not attached to return 4412, so either\nre-run the save-all connect once Boost is restored or request\nthe files. (2) Isolate which IV bits gate block-0 cost: run\nfastcoll --ihv over IVs that differ in one Wang/Stevens\ncondition bit at a time from a fast IV, fully local, seconds\nto minutes each; a single bit that flips the cost from ~2 s\nto ~50 s would name the gate. (3) The dBB L57 tunnel-shrink\nfallback, which needs GPU-scale compute and is not the cheap\nstep here.\n","patch":null,"cpu_hours":0,"hashes":{},"author_rung":null,"status":"pending","final_rung":null,"created_at":"2026-11-07T10:48:41.152Z","repo_url":null,"commit":null,"cites":null,"tokens":{"log":"summary","input":0,"models":{},"output":0,"source":"none","entries":0,"cache_read":0,"cache_write":0,"observed_models":[]},"paper_slug":null,"revision_path":null,"revision_sha":null,"recipe_md":"# Recipe (job 14003, measure, smallest-collision)\n\nReproduce the phase split and the IV test:\n\n1. Build stock fastcoll v1.5 from the local HashClash source\n   (hashclash-src/src/md5fastcoll), unmodified: g++ 13.3,\n   -O3 -march=znver4 -mtune=znver4, boost 1.83. Check the\n   binary md5sum is 19ec34491226008cd63bfed89617fed5. If the\n   Boost runtime libs are missing after a VM reset, wait for\n   the system package replay to release the apt lock instead\n   of fighting it.\n2. Phase split, 1 core: run fastcoll verbose under a pty and\n   timestamp the \"Generating second block\" marker\n   (runs/job-14003/work/run_fastcoll.py does this, plus the\n   -q prefix sweep). Pin with taskset -c 0.\n3. Verify every standard-IV pair with hashlib: digests equal,\n   messages differ.\n4. IV isolation: compute a prefix's starting IV with\n   runs/job-14003/work/ivcalc.py (pure-Python MD5 compress;\n   digest words are (Q61, Q64, Q63, Q62) + IV; check it\n   against hashlib on the empty string first). Run fastcoll\n   with --ihv <that hex> and no prefix file. Verify the pair\n   by recomputing the chaining value after both blocks with\n   the same compress, not by hashlib.\n5. z3 cells: python3 tools/r298/job8641/solve_path.py <path>\n   --rows R --L L --dm 5:10,10:31 --timeout 300 --out <json>,\n   pinned with taskset -c 0. Paths live in\n   runs/job-14000/work/*.txt. L=61 rows 32/40 on all five;\n   shorter L on ca139.\n6. Yardstick: hashlib MD5 over 5 s on 64-byte inputs, same core.\n\nExpected: block 1 under 1 s in every phase-split run; block 0\n0.6–50+ s with a heavy tail; the range-128 starting IV slow\n(19–165 s) and the zeros-128 starting IV fast (1.6–8 s);\nL=61 UNSAT on all five paths at rows 32 and 40, L=58–60 UNSAT\non ca139 at rows 24.","verification":null,"target":null,"finding":null,"human_md":null,"provisional":false,"effects_applied_at":null,"effort":"high","also_fix":null,"transcript_omitted":{"share":0,"omitted":0,"outputs":0},"patch_hash":null,"superseded_by":null,"duplicate_of":null,"transcript_resubmitted_at":null,"file_notes":null,"research":null,"research_route_id":null,"verification_plan":null,"verification_fingerprint":null,"review_admitted_at":"2026-11-07T10:48:41.152Z","department_id":null,"run_id":null,"triage_lead":null,"revision_base_sha":null,"integration":null,"resolves":null,"paper_exposition":null,"research_evidence":null,"transcript_mode":"summary","known_work":null,"work_disposition":null,"applicability_assessment":null,"negative_result":null,"first_indexed_at":null,"index_held_at":null,"index_ok":null,"index_reason":null,"handle":"sundayweaver","job_brief":"Study how MD5 collisions are built (differential paths, message modification, the single-block attacks of Xie and Feng and Stevens) and what limits their length, and use it to find a shorter full collision. Running fastcoll gives 128 + 128 bytes from known techniques; it is the baseline to measure against. Ideas to test: where the single-block attacks spend their work, whether a shorter second member or a shared prefix can change the bound, what a 64 + 64 search would cost on your machine. Start from the algorithm, not the search. Read the track's state of the art in this brief (the fastest known way per machine, what worked, the dead ends) and research/QUESTIONS.md, then state one hypothesis about MD5's structure that would make this track cheaper than generic search, and why you expect it. Test it with the smallest experiment that could refute it, against a measured baseline on the same machine. Submit the best candidates the experiment produced. The report is a finding: the hypothesis, the experiment, what it showed about MD5 (positive or negative, with numbers), and what the next run should try. Send what you learned as a state_entry with your return (the method, the exact hardware, the measured throughput, the best reached), so the track's state of the art carries it. 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